Earl Noe

It's sort of fascinating, although I don't understand it in the slightest, like reading Greek.

TVGuide used to provide scheduling info through almost all OTA broadcast stations via proprietary equipment that the stations used to transmit this info much in the way the basic EPG data is. Some years ago, they rather abruptly decided to quit providing this service, causing considerable pain to, among others, the owners of certain expensive Sony standalone DVRs, which did not even have a provision in the interface to set the date and time. The devices became impractical to program and essentially useless. The TVGuide company provides scheduling services to cable companies, whom I suspect have little love for anything related to cord cutting, so I have very dark suspicions. I'd like to be wrong, but I don't think anyone should assume that EyeTV guide service will return.

I am interested in how you assess performance. I am using OS 10.9.5 in a mid-2010 mini with 16 GB RAM. Performance seems fine to me, but for smoothest playback I find I need to quit applications.

I've found that the xmltv lineup does not have some listings for all the channels and subchannels I receive. Those can still be scheduled using EPG data, which listings can coexist with the xmltv listings. Not ideal, but works.

Interesting. I did not do that, but the Guide and Channels list persist after a restart.

I am using listings from xmltv.com which I manually loaded by dragging the downloaded file onto the EyeTV 3.6.9 icon (when quit) in the Finder and then changing the dropdowns to xmltv and assigning a channel from the list when prompted after EyeTV restarts. However, when I quit EyeTV and start again the assignments and guide grid remain the same. The only possible thing I can think of is that, before I loaded the xmltv schedule I downloaded, I went to the Guide tab in EyeTV prefs and chose "none" before quitting EyeTV. My OS is 10.0.5. Good luck.

I believe it is the Year of the Pig.

Careful now! You may get scolded for wasting people's time making humorous comments!

Thank you very much for taking the trouble to create this. When I eventually get tired of manually loading xmltv schedules, I will have a systematic guide to automating the process thanks to your generosity.

Same here. I got good results by going to the XML TV website, www.xmltvlistings.com, and signing up for their free trial. I downloaded the xml file for my area. Go to the guide tab in EyeTV prefs and select "none." Quit EyeTV and then drag the file you downloaded onto the EyeTV icon in the Finder. EyeTV should start and load the file. In Channels, change TVGuide to xmltv in the dropdown for each channel. A list should appear, prompting you to choose a channel in your area for the channel in EyeTV. The names may not be identical to the ones in Channels, but you can figure out by comparing the names, call letters and provider info which one corresponds to the one in your Channels. When you click "assign" listings for that channel will propagate in your grid. Do this for each channel in Channels, and Bob's your uncle. The listings seem indistinguishable to me from the ones provided by TVGuide. You will have to manually download a new xml file every couple of weeks but you will not go nuts trying to figure out where to dropped a space or left out a character in a script. I am hoping the assignments will stick, but so far I have only done this once. A year is about $20. Good luck.

"Mosaic" besides being a noun, is an adjective that also means "pertaining to Moses."

I don't feel obligated to update the OS unless I really have to. I keep a set of bootable outboard partitions for different purposes. Hulu, I found, wants High Sierra. iTunes has a problem with my large monitor with certain content, so I boot up in (yes) SnowLeopard in which it plays fine. For everyday use, I'm still in Mavericks. If there is a large hassle factor involved, I will see no problem with keeping a dedicated computer for TV. I still have a PowerPC running Tiger for certain graphics chores. I have stopped believing in one ring to rule them all.

I see. I've always used a wireless mouse and keyboard to control EyeTV.

Does TV Mosaic have 10 commandments? [Note: the technical term for that string is "joke."]

I took the bonehead approach. I went to the XMLTV website, signed up for their 14 day free trial, downloaded the file for my area. I waited until EyeTV wasn't busy recording, set the guide preference to none, and quit. I dragged the XML file onto the EyeTV icon, it started, and beavered away a while. There wasn't much sign of any change, but every time I changed a station in Channels to xmltv, I got a list of stations in my area. These weren't the same as the listings in Channels, but it was fairly easy to figure out which ones corresponded. As soon I clicked assign, a schedule for that channel propagated for that channel. Bob's your uncle. If I want to undertake automating this some day, I may do so, but it isn't that much trouble and for now it seems exactly like the TVGuide schedule. Let me know if by some miracle it returns.

" ... You can also just drag the .xml file onto the EyeTV app icon in the finder and it will populate the epg." This will only affect channels for which you have changed the EPG dropdown to "xmltv" in Channels, yes? Incidentally, I noticed even while TVGuide was still operating, the "new" and "repeat" info supplied by stations could be rather quirky.

I think I missed something in this thread. How do you get EyeTV to incorporate downloaded XMLTV data?

Is there a tutorial or how-to somewhere about using XMLTV listings with EyeTV? I've Googled around a little, and discussions rapidly devolve into discussions of scripting which are completely Greek to me. I don't mind subscribing to a listing service if there is some fairly straightforward way of using it with EyeTV. As I learned from a hilarious three-day unsuccessful attempt to install Linux, I am a graphical interface kind of guy.

You shouldn't be concerned about sleeping your macmini, except, of course, not doing it absent mindedly when EyeTV is actually recording. EyeTV has worked flawlessly for me in waking up to record scheduled programs. It doesn't wake the display when it does this.

THIS IS OFF-TOPIC But I will ask anyway, while I'm thinking of it. Has anyone written an Apple script that warns if you try to sleep the computer while EyeTV is recording? That is my principal cause of recording failures.

Thanks. "Lineup Order" is what is selected, but the listing stubbornly refuses to display the lineup I have made default. I'm doing something wrong.

I'm running into trouble right off with TitanTV. I can edit the lineup *red toolbox) by changing the order of channels in the listing, but when I return to the listings, these changes aren't reflected. There's no explicit save button. The changes I make in My Channel Lineups stick, but just don't show up in the listings, though it is supposed to be the default lineup. Pretty confusing.

I don't think I want to replace a tuner that's working fine just to try out their service. Almost all my recording is of the main and subchannels of two local PBS stations, though I can receive 30 or so. For the time being, I can schedule recording with EPG listings and just look up more info on the web where I want additional details. I noticed another poster here was was a veteran of the Sony DVR/TVGuide debacle. I had just recently paid $150 to have the software factory upgraded in that $700 DVR when TVGuide killed off their service and bricked the unit, in effect. Sony couldn't be bothered to patch their software so users could at least set the time/date. I have no love for either Sony or TVGuide.

I have a Silicondust tuner, but the HDHR Dual-US is not supported.

Thanks for the tutorial, dannyg. I had completely forgotten that I entered my TitanTV account name in the Preferences/Guide tab when I last experimented with TitanTV some time ago, so that already existed. However, earlier today, experimenting with it, I found that every time I clicked the red record dot, Chrome downloaded a .tvpi file which showed up in the little downloads box in the very bottom left corner of the browser window (also in Downloads). These soon were removed, I'm not certain whether because of my clicking on them, or EyeTV was recognizing them on its own, but once they deleted themselves, the programs appeared in Schedules. I never created a queue as such. Each time I clicked record, Chrome downloaded a file which was converted into a scheduled program.