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Geniatech took over the development when Elgato sold their interest, and they're doing the best they can - please read the introductory comments! There are a lot of unnecessarily angry people on here. We don't yet know pricing for EyeTV4, so that's pure speculation at the moment. We don't know how the original code was written... but anyone with any knowledge of software development will know that rewriting a package like this is not trivial. Please, people, be considerate, kind... and grateful that anything is being done at all :-)

Update v20191101 /v_EyeTV4.0.0b9(8512): thank for great, value and open feedback, please keep on doing so, following fixes, in below you will find the latest beta release 1: Add device support Netstream 2A/2T 2: Fixed:"Program Guide UI Sync problem". 3: Fixed: "lack of the fullscreen menu" 4: Fixed: "Search Field does not work in all screens - always eats the first letter " 5: Fixed: "Sound is playing while in background or in the dock although both boxes in "Preferences" -> "Sound" are not ticked." we keep on improving, thanks for value feedback. http://file.geniatech.com/eyetv4/EyeTV4.0.0b9_8512.dmg (this link will be replace by our CDN) Eyetv 4 Keys, please use one of the below 5 keys (FYI - will be blocked after 30th November 2019) 1 LBT3D-8L7E9BD-Y56DAKC-HL55D23 2 T4PDA-V9YE9CW-37W78KM-HBG4GA3 3 WKCTK-AS5MPZZ-854VRQY-QH26ZWZ 4 4D2QK-ZPW1VEX-HSKNYXQ-74DNUDG 5 2RGHE-826LQ77-EXPAVN7-ER3XZRW here is the voting- list for supporting Eyetv Tuner and other third-party tuner solutions- please join. https://doodle.com/poll/9q4h64ipa5z4v4i6  kind regards Mike

Update v20191023 /v_EyeEyeTV4.0.0b7(8510): thank for great, value and open feedback, please keep on doing so, following fixes, in below you will find the latest beta release fixed "Administrator access waring Message Dialog" issue on macOS 10.15 fixed software update we keep on improving, thanks for value feedback. http://file.geniatech.com/eyetv4/EyeTV4.0.0b7_8510.dmg (this link will be replace by our CDN soon, as Dropbox is sometimes very tricky and with errors) Eyetv 4 Keys, please use one of the below 5 keys (FYI - will be blocked after 30th November 2019) 1 LBT3D-8L7E9BD-Y56DAKC-HL55D23 2 T4PDA-V9YE9CW-37W78KM-HBG4GA3 3 WKCTK-AS5MPZZ-854VRQY-QH26ZWZ 4 4D2QK-ZPW1VEX-HSKNYXQ-74DNUDG 5 2RGHE-826LQ77-EXPAVN7-ER3XZRW here is the voting- list for supporting Eyetv Tuner and other third-party tuner solutions- please join. https://doodle.com/poll/9q4h64ipa5z4v4i6  kind regards Mike

I’m a bit irritated that version 4.0.0b10 (8513) is called Release Candidate.

Thanks for the Beta 9 fixes! Some more feedback: “Select All” don’t work in “All channel” List ————————————————————————————————————————————— ESC don’t cancel the fullscreen mode like EyeTV 3 did ————————————————————————————————————————————— the Mouse pointer should be hidden in fullscreen mode (if idle) ————————————————————————————————————————————— During removal of one or more channels from the ALL CHANNELS list, a running Video (recorded or live) is interrupted and drops around 5 frames & sound. Not really critical, but shows, that the threading might have some problems. ————————————————————————————————————————————— Text is not readable in the OS light mode: ————————————————————————————————————————————— Program guide Pressing “Now” and switching the DATE or TIME scrolls also half a page down to the bottom of the list. → the vertical position should be kept. ————————————————————————————————————————————— The Icon I think it’s OK to have the 64Bit message in the icon during Beta phase … nevertheless, for an Mac Application running on Catalina, it’s not really essential to mention that it is a 64 Bit app, because only 64 Bit apps are running on Mac – and it is not neccessary to mention that it is a mac application on a mac 😉 Here you can also see that one icon is different. ————————————————————————————————————————————— Sometimes (AFTER the EPG Update was running soccessfully), the EPG Service is marked as “Expired!” I guess this happened after the app was updated from one Beta to the next. ————————————————————————————————————————————— After double clicking a recording with 0 KB (however this happened) and confirming with ‘OK’ → EyeTV crashes ————————————————————————————————————————————— MIssing the OPTIONS button to activate the Export to iTunes / TV.app after recording ————————————————————————————————————————————— The new GUI looks nicer, but with the old you definately had a better overview to compare date, lenght of a recording. you may arrange this line in columns (like EyeTV 3) BTW: Start time is shown twice and the end time is not nessassary, because the duration gives this information already.

Hello all, I tried to cut out commercials from the recording ... After 1 hour I gave up 😞 Is there any user guide for the new editor available? The editor in EyeTV3 was so easy to use. I want to get them back! Thanks. Mike

Assuming EyeTV is normally installed in your Apps folder: Open Terminal, type: xattr -cr /Applications/EyeTV.app Then open EyeTV with right mouse button (or control-click) and select "open"

Press CMD-i for that information. (and again to remove the information-bar) But I give you right. The new behavior is quite annoying. I hope they fix this in the final version but am pretty sure we have to live with it. A progress bar of the actual program would be the best option (in conjunction with EPG data).

You can export an HD recording and use it in iTunes, Quicktime, etc., by displaying the recording in the Finder, then show package contents and then convert the ts file with Handbreak, iVI or other video converter iMac 27" (2017) Mojave (10.14.6) --- MacBook Air 13" (2017) Catalina (10.15.1) --- EyeTV 4 b11 --- EyeTV Netstream 4C

The program guide disappears when the app is closed and has to be set up each time. Program recording will start on time when scheduled but will not stop at the end of the scheduled program. I scheduled a one hour program to record last night and it was sill recording ten hours later! I had to stop it manually!

one more issue seen after start today, Programm guide does not work any more, also not updated. seems that it lost all in since yesterday.in 24Hours

RICK I am using the old Eye TV Hybrid with ATSC decoder. EyeTV 4 works the same as what everyone else is seeing. I am using int with Catalina 10.5.2. I have not run Eyetv 4 with Mojave.

Thanks for the next version, but none of the mistakes I wrote about were fixed. So I'll repeat: - The Guide program does not refresh after open the program, it can be done manually, but it is inconvenient. - When we return to the Program Guide window, the window position (up-down) is not remembered, even clicking "now" changes the position. - Closing the playback window when recording and opening it again has no sound (but recording with sound, however, to play the recording correctly you need to wait for the recording to finish). - The scroll bar at the top of the window does not work when playing a program while still recording (even backwards to the part already recorded). - Zooming to full screen is unstable, sometimes blinking bars appear at the top and bottom of the screen (changing the "display" setting in preferences increases or decreases the occurrence of this error). - No possibility to reduce from full screen by pressing escape. - Closing the playback window works by leaps and bounds, it looks ugly (it would be better to run smoothly or not at all). - When in Program Guide we move to the end of the day there is no possibility of moving further (in version 3 there were arrows to the side of the hours, in version 4 arrows are only on the day), I must first change the day and then select the time. - It is not possible to change the channel using the up and down keyboard buttons in the live tv window. - Changing the channel in the live tv display window - the up arrow should change the channel up the list, bottom down (now it's the opposite). - "New" compact editor is very unfriendly. I have no problems changing the window size, e.g. to 4: 3, but I think in this case the "display" settings in app preferences may be important. I do not mention problems installing the program, I deal with such problems alone. Configuration: MacPro early 2009 (2 x 3,06 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, MSI Radeon R9 280X 3 GB, 96GB RAM) with Mojave, Macbook Air 2017 with Catalina. EyeTV Hybird (2x). Poland, cable and terrestrial TV.

Indeed! I think I might have been focused on the Change Log... ;0) Let us see and for now contribute all the errors we encounter.

Uuhhhhh !! Yeahhhhh !! With Beta 10 I have picture and sound too!

@Pheel There should be a folder on your Desktop with a .dmg in it. You can run it from there.

Hi, haven't seen that anyone mentioned that it's not possible to "open live tv on multiplex" from the file menu (while pressing ctrl key). It usually opens a new window but does nothing. Since I'm using this frequently I would like to get this working again. Is Geniatch aware of this issue and planning to implement that? Thanks Andy

Did I miss the EPG/Info which was available in EyeTV 3 by hitting Return 2 times? Would love to see that also in EyeTV 4.

Just kidding...

It’s a public beta. They are resolving issues almost every day — your input matters. Accept it for what it is, be happy that it’s getting better!

Hello all Sorry for my english, this is not my native language so I can make mistakes. I hope that my comments will help a bit. Thanks to the team for all the hard work, the idea of making beta available to users and collecting feedback is great. Configuration: MacPro early 2009 (graphics - MSI Radeon R9 280X 3 GB) with Mojave, Macbook Air 2017 with Catalina. EyeTV Hybird. Poland, cable and terrestrial TV. The Guide program does not refresh after starting the program, it can be done manually, but it is inconvenient. When we return to the Program Guide window, the window position (up-down) is not remembered, even clicking "now" changes the position. Closing the playback window when recording and opening it again has no sound (but recording with sound, however, to play the recording correctly you need to wait for the recording to finish). The scroll bar at the top of the window does not work when playing a program while still recording (even backwards to the part already recorded). Zooming to full screen is unstable, sometimes blinking bars appear at the top and bottom of the screen. No possibility to reduce from full screen by pressing escape. Closing the playback window works by leaps and bounds, it looks ugly (it would be better to run smoothly or not at all). When in Program Guide we move to the end of the day there is no possibility of moving further (in version 3 there were arrows to the side of the hours, in version 4 arrows are only on the day), I must first change the day and then select the time. It is not possible to change the channel using the up and down keyboard buttons in the live tv window. Changing the channel in the live tv display window - IMO the up arrow should change the channel up the list, bottom down.

You should follow @Pheel's indications 7 post before your last post. (Go to the application folder > contextual click on the app > open + yes) It is difficult to get an answer, since this has been answered already several times in this thread. By the way ... I do not know MacCleaner, but I would use something simpler such as AppZapper.

Right-click on the clip and choose Show in Finder, then right-click on the file and choose Show Package content, from there you will see a file with .TS extension, right-click and open that file into Hand Break and use mp4 (smaller file)

Right-click on the App from the Application folder and choose open

eyeTV is getting better and better, thanks for your work. But there's still a lot to do, but you'll be able to give the many users of TV tuners on the Mac a great TV experience. We will help by testing your beta versions. My feedback about Beta 9: I now use macOS 10.15.1 Model name: MacBook Pro Model Identification: MacBookPro11.3 Processor type: Quad-Core Intel Core i7 Processor speed: 2.3 GHz Number of processors: 1 Total number of cores: 4 L2 cache (per core): 256 KB L3 cache: 6 MB Hyper-Threading Technology: Activated Memory: 16 GB TV tuner: eyeTV Sat free TV works very well, recordings too. The program guide is now also very usable. The processor load seems to be quite high. Especially when a recording is running and you want to see the program a little later, the notebook's fan runs at the highest level. But also if you only work with the Notes app in the foreground and the TV window is running behind it. My recordings and the eyeTV buffer are on an external SSD via USB3. Recordings can be trimmed at the beginning and end, when trying to export (Why AVI?) eyeTV4 doesn't crash anymore, but it creates a file that can't be played. I'm still missing the export function without new encoding in mp4, as it worked in eyeTV3. Further there are big problems with the full screen display and with the display on a 2nd display, including AirPlay. Full screen via double click does not yet create an undistorted image. The image is again displayed too high and cut off. The transparent menu and status bar is not hidden. When switching back to window mode, the image remains in screen size behind the Mac menu bar and the dock. It must be resized manually. When switching to Edit mode of a clip, the image is also displayed too large (the playback window is only extended by the Editor toolbar). So you first have to resize the window with the mouse. The remote control of the eyeTV Sat Free can only be used with very few keys, these are also incorrectly assigned. With the green button you can switch to full screen. With the green button you also get back into the window mode. But in full screen mode you must not press the "hold" button. Then the screen becomes white and you can no longer operate the Mac. The sound continues and with the green button the TV picture appears very briefly. The Mac must then be brought back to life by pressing its power button (long press until restart). Sending the picture to another device via AirPlay creates a broken picture (There is another small window with a part of the TV picture in the lower left corner of the window). I copied the recording (movie.ts) out of the container (movie.eyetv) and played it back with VLC and was able to play it back via AirPlay without any problems. This way I could also export movies. Here you can use "Handbrake". Of course this is not comfortable.
I didn't try a setup of the eyeTV Sat Free. I replaced eyeTV3 directly with eyeTV4 and therefore can't give any information about the channel search. In the program Guide eyeTV Sat Free appears correctly as a device with firmware 1.0. Some of my channels are displayed without the corresponding pictogram. (MDR, RBB, BR, HR, ...) maybe that's because I didn't do a channel scan, which I wanted to avoid in the beta phase. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

@Udo Just turn it off manually in the preferences plist ... You'll find it under ~/Library/Preferences/com.elgato.eyetv.plist

Hi Geniatech, I've just downloaded and installed EyeTV 4.0.0b9_8512 onto Mojave 10.14.6. On the surface it seems to work well. Thank you for putting in the hard work. As I make great use of AppleScripts I've been testing this aspect. Many of the commands are working well. However I've found issues with the following commands: tell application "EyeTV" get every player_window -- the command compiles but EyeTV doesn't recognise the apple event get the front player_window -- " same stop -- does not stop playback (however 'pause' works). However strangely the stop will turn a fast-forward into normal speed. slow forward -- does nothing (fast forward works) slow backward -- does nothing (fast backward works) jump to 10 from start -- or from ending or from current -- all do nothing channel_up -- and channel_down, at first both did nothing. The in-window controls also did not work. However after selecting a new channel from the EyeTV Programs window both AppleScript and GUI commands work. It feels like some sort of initialisation issue. get favorites lists -- returns lists, but all items show error -43 for the properties 'name' and 'channels' get the playback volume -- returns the correct volume, but after sending commands 'volume_up' or 'volume_down' the returned value is unchanged. It still returns the old volume. (However: set the playback volume to N works). get the playback position -- gives an error. The command is not accepted. «class ppos» doesn't seem to be defined. get every recording -- returns a list of recordings, but the every list item gives an error -43 for all of its many properties end tell I hope you can find time to fix the above issues. I will certainly be testing in Catalina also, in time. Thanks, John

When selecting 'My Channels' and and set it to Guide EyeTV does not remember to set it to Guide when I quit the app and restart it. Pls. fix it. Catalina 10.15.1

Same here. The crashed installer will leave a folder on your desk. Open it and then open the .dmg file that you'll find there. Worked for me. You'll have to close down EyeTV first, if it's running, before dragging the new beta to the "Applications" folder.

Tried the beta 8 with the 610:s, same thing, Setup Assistant opens couple of screens, the one with the serial number just flashes and opens tv-channel. As the Assistant didn't finish, no picture and only option is to quit with cmd+q. Updating doesn't work either.

Plus: View-options are grayed out.

I'm using a Diversity and it works.

That is normal behavior since the app is not really closed. I posted a workaround a few pages back. Search for that, download it, put it on your desktop and you can start the TV window with a double click.

that's a great suggestion

I am not able to get nearly as far as others seem to have. I have had basically the same problem for versions 8508, 8509, 8510 and now 8511. The application starts and the window showing channels come up first and is immediately followed by a black window that I assume is where the picture will be displayed. About 3 seconds later that 'picture' window goes to a translucent white and the the whole application crashes. If I remove the EyeTV Hybrid from my computer and start the application the application appears to be stable and I can look at Preferences etc. If I plug the EyeTV hybrid back into the side of the computer the application immediately crashes. I think I read earlier in this thread that there a few others that had this type of problem so if anyone has suggestions for me I would be appreciative. My computer configuration is shown below. Thanks, Larry

Automatically when you change the channel. To trigger it manually: CMD-I (I for Info, not l for lizard)

I would suggest to provide a release note also with the known errors which are not fixed - / still in progress. This could reduce the amount of post with the same content and on the other hand helps to focus on testing the changes / finding additional issues

Happy to test EyeTV 4! Beta 6 and 7 have the same following problems: 1- It does not show any channel title. 2- It does not show tv guide information it was showing before quitting and restarting EyeTV 4 unless i clic refresh button to redownload.

Hello Angela. I'm using it on a daily basis to select the channel, launch the recording, stop it... Best regards

No need to be so rude. If you had read my entire post - not just the first sentence - you'd have realised I had indeed read the intial post. Turns out the issue was the geniatech.com server being down - works now

I don’t use the on-screen controller but do use the fullscreen menu. lack of the fullscreen menu or some other "10-feet" interface is a showstopper for me.

I am using two TerraTec S7 devices with Eye Tv and I would love to be able to use it with new version.

On my MacBook Pro + EyeTV Netstream 4Sat it had been installed EyeTV 3. After updating to Catalina it did no longer work (reason known) and I installed BETA 4 after erasing EyeTV in the program folder. When I now start EyeTV by double click the following happens: 1) Administrator access is required to update a device driver for EyeTV asking for name and password (entered and ok), 2) EyeTV assistant starts (Welcome to EyeTV!). The it takes about 10 seconds and a black screen with a "!" in a triangle appears and on the left sinde "16:9" - nothing more happens. ESC does not work. I have to use option+command+ESC, then I am back to my desktop. Within the 10 seconds I can type next, next... until the key should be entered but before this can be done the black screen as described above appears. Does anybody have an idea, how I can solve the problem and start the BETA version properly?

I would like to join Eyetv 4.x for Mac 64 Bit tests. I'm using 10.15

Sorry, why are you wasting our time with your nonsense? Geniatech promised several times to be ready, when Catalina will be out. They faked all of us and this a good reason to blame them for this lousy job!

It doesn't work on my computer.... The application opens a black screen that blocks my computer and I can not do anything except force a reboot of the computer I'm on mac OS 10.15 iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017) 4,2 GHz Intel Core i7 quatre cœurs 16 Go 2400 MHz DDR4 Radeon Pro 580 8 Go

I am on Mac Catalina Eye TV 3 sat install ok setup wizard came up then black screen with ! In triangle can’t get out of apart from shutting down

Thank you, John10044. I had never been able to sign up for this Forum (using gmail). I just tried an alternate email and it worked! That's strange. I would second Eric's comment that "It is not necessary to use EyeTV's built in EPG". We have been using SchedulesDirect with EyeTV for many years. We have a nightly script that uses a little program called "mc2xml" to download the XML file from SchedulesDirect. It works great. I was trying to stick with EyeTV on OSX and we do still use it but I finally tried Channels DVR when they added a capability for using TVEverywhere as a Source. So far I like it a lot. (there's no OSX viewing app yet but the new app called IINA is a fantastic OSX media viewer and it's very configurable) But I'll keep looking for that 64-bit version of EyeTV and hopefully it will support HDHomeRun devices.

Downloaded and installed EyeTV 3.6.9 (version 7528) on two Minis running OSX Sierra (10.12.6). Both successfully downloaded and populated TV listings for the upcoming two weeks. Both have also scheduled, recorded, and played back chosen programming successfully. So, all is as it was prior to February of this year when the software's TV Guide service quit working. I did not receive any notification from Angela that there was now a new working version of the software. Fortunately I was able to find that out here. Thanks to all...