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To me it rather looks like an Alpha version and not a Beta version.

please be more civil and kind, assole

all, we know a lot of you are waiting for some clear signs, what's next - will they ever be release a 64 - bit Mac APP? Answer: yes - working on this 64 bit transition for all Eyetv Applications (more then 15) since 12 month - supporting iOS/Android/Windows/Windows 10/macOS, Apple TV, ipadds, we almost finished for all operation systems - beside macOS, we know you waiting for this a long time, but it is / was also the biggest tasks, and there was a time in March this year - we feared that we cannot not make it, but we overcome the mayor challenges and ups and downs. Please see some live screen shots to get a idea about our new Eyetv 4.x for Mac 64 - bit (beta + preview) - UI / UX. We look for some serious & experienced beta testers and heavy eyetv usersfor Mac. This will be limited closed beta - preview group. If you are interesting, please post a pm to me. Please be aware yetv 4.x for Mac 64 - bit (beta + preview) will be only for + require latest macOS Mojave and for macOS Catalina, no other other macOS! Open speaking, it was + is a heavy load to upside everything to 64bit, to have this clear - we still have a way to go, but so far it looks promising + working, we now working with open sprints, on the device integration, final compatibility (hope Apple do not change so much anymore in Catalina) - stabilize the code and work on the performance. More or less quality quality ......... From time to time, I will update here, the Eyetv dev + support team have a clear target, as from beginning - move eyetv Mac app to the next level - and be ready in time (launch of Catalina), but as much quality first, hope understand this. thanks + have a great day. kind regards Mike

I am on Catalina 10.15 Beta (19A558d) now. EyeTV crashes immediately when opening a LiveTV-Window. Waiting for another beta (ether macOS or EyeTV) for further investigating. For now I am stuck. Oh, and by the way: Think about a new app icon. The old one looks very ... dated. Everything on a Mac is flattened down these days. Consider doing that, too. Please. Example:

Dear Ton, sorry cannot follow your context, I may make mistakes in handling forum answering for sure, I am far away from perfect, other can do this better for sure as well, - honestly appreciate your feedback, but not on this context, not really helpful - It is also a certain way of of respect, if you want to tell me something personally address this direct to me - please do not hesitate, if audience is needed for this, that's a different story. thank you Mike

thanks for your patients, enrollment of the eyetv 4 64 bit beta - has started , again, my very personal opinion is stay with macOS 10.14.6 until first bugfixes / service packs for macOS 10.15 is available. all feedback & results can be posted here - public - but no download links and no keys should be shared here. Lets go, thank you again, keep you informed. Mike

Thanks for the update Eric! If the document Eric posted isn't available to you, it's probably because you didn't log on. If you can't get a eyetvforum account because you can't get the verification email (I couldn't using a comcast.com account), then try using a mail.com address to sign up here. That worked for me. As far as any other suggestions: The instructions say XML listings work with at least build 7524, which is what Eric tested on. I tested on 7520, so I suspect the instructions will work on any build of EyeTV 3.6.9. YMMV. If you go to your dashboard at xmltvlistings.com, you will see a support note about complaints from EyeTV users saying stations are in the wrong order. That is not an xmltvlistings.com issue. The problem can be fixed in EyeTV by going to the "Channels" screen and dragging each station to the order you would like it displayed. EyeTV will automatically remember the new order until you 'rescan' or 'auto tune' your channels again (something you only do when a TV station in your area is new, or changes frequency -- a very rare event). If you don't like the yearly auto-renew of your xmltvlistings.com subscription (the default), then you can change that under "Manage Subscription" on the xmltvlistings.com dashboard page. Enjoy! 😁👍

Thanks for the update Eric! If the document Eric posted isn't available to you, it's probably because you didn't log on. If you can't get a eyetvforum account because you can't get the verification email (I couldn't using a comcast.com account), then try using a mail.com address to sign up here. That worked for me. As far as any other suggestions: The instructions say XML listings work with at least build 7524, which is what Eric tested on. I tested on 7520, so I suspect the instructions will work on any build of EyeTV 3.6.9. YMMV. If you go to your dashboard at xmltvlistings.com, you will see a support note about complaints from EyeTV users saying stations are in the wrong order. That is not an xmltvlistings.com issue. The problem can be fixed in EyeTV by going to the "Channels" screen and dragging each station to the order you would like it displayed. EyeTV will automatically remember the new order until you 'rescan' or 'auto tune' your channels again (something you only do when a TV station in your area is new, or changes frequency -- a very rare event). If you don't like the yearly auto-renew of your xmltvlistings.com subscription (the default), then you can change that under "Manage Subscription" on the xmltvlistings.com dashboard page. Enjoy! 😁👍

Thank you, John10044. I had never been able to sign up for this Forum (using gmail). I just tried an alternate email and it worked! That's strange. I would second Eric's comment that "It is not necessary to use EyeTV's built in EPG". We have been using SchedulesDirect with EyeTV for many years. We have a nightly script that uses a little program called "mc2xml" to download the XML file from SchedulesDirect. It works great. I was trying to stick with EyeTV on OSX and we do still use it but I finally tried Channels DVR when they added a capability for using TVEverywhere as a Source. So far I like it a lot. (there's no OSX viewing app yet but the new app called IINA is a fantastic OSX media viewer and it's very configurable) But I'll keep looking for that 64-bit version of EyeTV and hopefully it will support HDHomeRun devices.

It is not necessary to use EyeTV's built in EPG. There are 2 alternative EPGs: xmltvlistings.com (which I use, see next paragraph) and schedulesdirect.org. Both are proven to work well with EyeTV, both produce 2-week listings for the channel lineup of your choice, and at a lower cost than EyeTVEPGPremium. On screen they look just like TV Guide. It is not necessary to upgrade to EyeTV's latest build (#7528) to use them, they work perfectly with earlier builds. There has been a lot of discussion about them on various parts of this forum since TV Guide disappeared from EyeTV in the US in February. About 6 months ago I worked out and posted a step-by-step guide to installing the EPG for xmltvlistings.com. There have been a few suggestions for improvement, especially in the past 2 weeks, so I've updated it and the revised Guide is posted here. Most of this is other people's work, which I simply collated and organized for convenience; be sure to see the Credits at the end of the Guide. Since various threads here have discussed EPGs, I'll post this in a couple of other relevant threads as well. XMLTVListings EPG with EyeTV-Guide.pdf

It is not necessary to use EyeTV's built in EPG. There are 2 alternative EPGs: xmltvlistings.com (which I use, see next paragraph) and schedulesdirect.org. Both are proven to work well with EyeTV, both produce 2-week listings for the channel lineup of your choice, and at a lower cost than EyeTVEPGPremium. On screen they look just like TV Guide. It is not necessary to upgrade to EyeTV's latest build (#7528) to use them, they work perfectly with earlier builds. There has been a lot of discussion about them on various parts of this forum since TV Guide disappeared from EyeTV in the US in February. About 6 months ago I worked out and posted a step-by-step guide to installing the EPG for xmltvlistings.com. There have been a few suggestions for improvement, especially in the past 2 weeks, so I've updated it and the revised Guide is posted here. Most of this is other people's work, which I simply collated and organized for convenience; be sure to see the Credits at the end of the Guide. Since various threads here have discussed EPGs, I'll post this in a couple of other relevant threads as well. XMLTVListings EPG with EyeTV-Guide.pdf

It is not necessary to use EyeTV's built in EPG. There are 2 alternative EPGs: xmltvlistings.com (which I use, see next paragraph) and schedulesdirect.org. Both are proven to work well with EyeTV, both produce 2-week listings for the channel lineup of your choice, and at a lower cost than EyeTVEPGPremium. On screen they look just like TV Guide. It is not necessary to upgrade to EyeTV's latest build (#7528) to use them, they work perfectly with earlier builds. There has been a lot of discussion about them on various parts of this forum since TV Guide disappeared from EyeTV in the US in February. About 6 months ago I worked out and posted a step-by-step guide to installing the EPG for xmltvlistings.com. There have been a few suggestions for improvement, especially in the past 2 weeks, so I've updated it and the revised Guide is posted here. Most of this is other people's work, which I simply collated and organized for convenience; be sure to see the Credits at the end of the Guide. Since various threads here have discussed EPGs, I'll post this in a couple of other relevant threads as well. XMLTVListings EPG with EyeTV-Guide.pdf

all, to all who like tp participate in the eyetv 64-bit program, please print + sign + scan attached e-copy of the NDA + BETA Eyetv 3, Eyetv 4 64-BIT BETA PROGRAM and share a signed e-copy to EYETVBETA@EU-GENIATECH.COM. After received sign e-copy - we enroll to you the beta - program to you, sorry having things so complex, but legal wise it is necessary. thank you in advanced for help and supporting eyetv. Mike GENIATECH-EYETV4MAC-64-BIT_MUTUAL_NDA_v20190903.pdf

Guys, you know why this company is behaving in such a way? because it is a Chinese/Asisn company, they only understand in how to take or siphon off the money from anyone but never to give back, so their beta's are un-necessarily deliberately complicated, may be they work as a front for something ...the download agreement form shows their only and only commercial greed, even their English in the form is too broken, it is Chinglish .... guys, walk away on the face of all those Chin cons in the west .. they are only for their vested interests ..they understand all Europeans as foolish buffoons going after Ms chingy