ATSC-user

EyeTV 4.0.0 (8532) works fine on my Mac Mini M2 Pro (16 GB RAM) running MacOS 15.4.1 with an EyeTV Hybrid USB stick (ATSC, not DVB-T). Also runs fine on my MacBook Pro M3 (16GB RAM) running MacOS 15.4.1. (I did not need to use Sentinal.) No problems viewing, recording, editing, or playback. No crashes. Nota Bene: Years ago, I did a clean installation of EyeTV 4.0.0 (not a beta, deleted the EyeTV 3.x preferences, and so forth).

If you really have an NTSC-only USB stick, I would not make any bets, because that hardware is maybe 20 years old. Further, NTSC has been dead over-the-air in the US and Canada for over 10 years now, replaced by the ATSC standard. One still can buy a EyeTV "U6" USB stick (which is ATSC) from Amazon US/CA and it would include a license key for EyeTV 4 --ONLY IF-- you choose the seller "Geniatech" on Amazon. Their listing says returns are allowed, so if it did not work for you, you should be able to return it. I have an older "EyeTV Hybrid" which is both NTSC and ATSC. It works fine on MacOS 15.2 on an Mac Mini M2 and that *likely* would work fine for someone else in North America. Are you 100% certain you do NOT have this ? By 2009, ATSC was almost everywhere in North America and NTSC was 99% dead. CAVEAT: I have NO WAY to test the FM feature. I have never used that. If you really need that, no one here is likely able to help you and your best bet is to experiment.

EyeTV 4.0.0 (8532) works fine and no issues with MacOS 15.2 (24C101) on an Apple Mac Mini M2 Pro with the "EyeTV Hybrid" USB stick (ATSC, not DVB). I am using a high-performance external Thunderbolt disk for both my EyeTV archive and also other video recordings. I have had very few issues since upgrading (many years ago) to EyeTV 4.x, but I was careful to delete my old EyeTV 3.x configuration before upgrading to 4.0.0 -AND- I never ever run any ".0" release of MacOS. The earliest OS release I will consider is a ".01" release. More usually, I will wait at least for a ".1" release -- for ANY operating system (windows, macos, or other) before upgrading. I am concerned that GeniaTech has not yet released a "fat binary" with native ARM support. Maybe they can move the major release from 4.0.0 to 4.1.0 when they do that, although I doubt they will have a fat binary soon. Note: I never used FM radio with this stick and I have no way to test that. I do not have an Intel Mac, so I cannot test that either.

EyeTV 4.0.0 (8532) works fine with an older EyeTV Hybrid (ATSC+NTSC, not DVB) USB stick tuner on a Mac Mini M2 Pro with 16 GB RAM running MacOS 15.1.1. I use an external USB-C Lacie disk for EyeTV media storage, but use the internal flash drive for the EyeTV application and configuration files. This all works OK. Sorry, but I have NEVER used the FM radio feature and I have no way to test that. I only use the ATSC tuner and also playback of older ATSC recordings from external disk.

EyeTV Version 4.0.0 (8532) works fine for me on a Mac Mini M2 Pro with 16 GB RAM running MacOS Sequoia 15.1.1. I have a (US) EyeTV Hybrid (ATSC+NTSC, not DVB) with a USB interface. MacOS "System Report" lists this as a "WinTV HVR-980" from Hauppauge Computer Works. For debugging: I suggest these steps: (1) Start at top left of screen with the APPLE LOGO ->About This Mac->More Info...->System Report... (2) Then, look under Hardware and click on "USB" (NOT "Thunderbolt/USB4") (3) Now look to see if MacOS can see your device (e.g., Netstream 4 Sat). It could say El Gato or Geniatech or something else as the device manufacturer. If YES, MacOS sees your device, then the issue probably is with EyeTV 4.x. In this case, carefully write down your EyeTV Product Key and use EyeTV Reporter to re-install the product, then provide the license key when requested. If NO, then this is a MacOS issue, because MacOS is not able to see your device. In this case, maybe see if any other MacOS device you have still can see the device or not. This could be a MacOS installation/device-driver issue or could be an issue with your Netstream 4 Sat device. Good luck !

I am not having any big issues using EyeTV 4 (8531) on an M2 Pro Mac Mini running MacOS 13.6.1 with an (ATSC) EyeTV Hybrid USB stick. I will not be moving to Sonoma anytime soon; I am a late adopter. EyeTV 4 is a separate purchase, not a free upgrade, from EyeTV 3.x. For me, EyeTV 4 works well enough. Some people posting here seem to have many issues. I found that it was VERY important to use the no-cost EyeTV Reporter tool (available from Geniatech.EU) to remove all traces of EyeTV3 BEFORE I tried to install EyeTV 4. Making backups before doing the upgrade is always sensible, as with any upgrade. (Aside: I strongly suspect El Gato built EyeTV 3 on the CARBON interface, which was deprecated when MacOS moved to 64-bit. I believe GeniaTech had to do a lot of work to rewrite the 3.x software to support the COCOA interface required with a 64-bit MacOS.)

I am running EyeTV 4 (8531) on an M2 Pro Mac Mini running MacOS 13.6.1 with an (ATSC) EyeTV Hybrid USB stick without big issues. I am a late adopter, so I will wait a long while before I upgrade to Sonoma.

As of 31 Oct 2023, EyeTV 4 (8531) can be found here, along with several other versions going back to (8521): At www.GeniaTech.eu under Support-->EyeTV 4 Software I am running (8531) on an M2 Pro Mac Mini running MacOS 13.6.1 without issues. I use an (ATSC, not DVB-T/T2) EyeTV Hybrid USB stick.

In North America, on an M2 Pro Mac Mini running MacOS 13.6.1, with an older (ATSC) EyeTV Hybrid USB stick, with EyeTV 4 (8531), EyeTV works well enough for me. I am not experiencing many of the issues described in this forum. I did do a completely clean removal of EyeTV 3.x using their EyeTV Reporter tool before I upgraded to EyeTV 4 (years ago now). Also, please understand that I do not use (or care about) any Internet-based EPG, as ATSC TV transmitters send the EPG over-the-air automatically and continuously for free. I do not know how DVB-T/T2 works as we do not have that here.

In North America, I find that loss of XMLTV or whatever Internet-based EPG is not a big problem, because the ATSC standard used here always sends EPG program information over the air all the time. One might need to periodically (maybe every 12-24 hours) ask EyeTV 4 (from the "Program Guide" window), especially to force a scan/update of the OTA program listings for channels one does not regularly watch. Obviously, this means setting up a recording a week (or several days) in advance will not work, but for my purposes it is good enough. FWIW, I am using EyeTV 4 (8531) with a Geniatech EyeTV Hybrid USB stick (ATSC, not DVB-T/T2) on MacOS, but I am NOT yet on Ventura. I am a late-adopter and will wait before upgrading -- I do not need anything new in Ventura. IANAL, but Geniatech might have legal problems with sales or providing support in the USA because Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA) is actually enforced here. Other countries might talk about DMCA-like restrictions, but they are not really enforced in most countries. So only US residents really suffer due to those copying/editing restrictions. Btw, DMCA is also what forced the switch from the older DVI interface to the HDMI interface -- DVI did not support enforcement of copyright restrictions while HDMI can.

I suspect that Geniatech is a hardware company and that (any) software is neither their focus nor their main capability.

Thanks for the post about EyeTV on Sonoma 14.0. I do not need anything in Sonoma, so I will wait and wait to upgrade MacOS -- until a new EyeTV 4 release version comes out and other folks report it working reliably under Sonoma.

I find Geniatech is not good at interactive user support. I strongly suspect that before installing EyeTV 4, everyone ought to first use their EyeTV Reporter tool to remove all traces of EyeTV 3.x. That is what I had to do -- years ago -- to successfully install EyeTV 4. With that caveat, EyeTV 4 (8531) works for me on both an M2 Mini and an i5 MBP, running MacOS 13.6.1 on the Mini and 12.latest on the MBP and using an (ATSC, not DVB-T/T2) Hybrid USB stick. EyeTV 4 still is a bit quirky, compared with EyeTV 3, especially in editing, but it works well enough for my purposes.